Ancient Lights and Downtown Development
DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES — The always fascinating BLDGBLOG has an article today about the UK concept of "ancient lights".
"Ancient lights" is a colloquialism for the "right to light," guaranteed under English law, whereby windows that have seen twenty years' worth of "uninterrupted" daylight cannot be blocked by the construction of new buildings.
Creating easements for light is an odd concept, but it's an interesting read in light of the current disagreement between certain residents of Flower Street Lofts and the developers of 1133 Hope. If Downtown were in the UK this would seem to be a prime candidate for an "ancient light" dispute.
That said, BLDGBLOG notes that in the UK a property owner can prevent a property from getting this "right to light" by serving notice of theoretical plans to construct a taller structure. Certainly owners at Flower Street should have been aware that their neighboring parking lot was prime ground for future development.
Bottom line: Don't expect your Downtown view to always stay the same. Learn to love the structures rising around you. They don't block views: they become a piece of them.









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Sodha family on April 25, 2007, at 04:37PM – #1
Love your last statement.
BTW, I just recently closed on a condo in the Skyline. Yes, I do have a prime view of the city skyline and I'm one of the "lucky" one's who's unit was not impacted by construction of Market Lofts. But, I would not have minded a taller structure instead, b/c downtown still needs that critical mass of residents. Plus, I would love to see taller buildings in downtown. Across from me is the 717 Flower bldg, which will be 35 stories and definitly block somewhat of my view, but I don't care. There's an ugly parking gargage behind it, I can't wait 717 Flower to block it.
Also, when I was going over the CCR information, you have to agree that your view is not protected and you are in a Redevelopment Area. Basically, South Park Flower Lofts residents have no basis. They can probably get the developer to listen, but no legal barring will come out of it.
Fred Camino on April 25, 2007, at 07:14PM – #2
I really don't see what they are so upset about, that parking lot that makes up the majority of their "view" is rat central. Right now at South Park Lofts I have a great view of the Easter building, but I really wouldn't mind losing that view to replace the parking lots that surround me on 3 sides with something a bit more interesting.
Kenarch on April 26, 2007, at 12:10AM – #3
Hmmm. Last time I checked, NIMBY meant "Not In My Back Yard". Well, that's a tough one when one lives in a loft or condo with... no back yard. Seriously though - people who move down here and then act like they just bought a faux caliterranean mcmansion in one of those new suburbs really don't have much of a clue... This is an urban, densifying, growing downtown. Views are great, but as Sodha said, they are not protected unless specifically part of the approval agreement or purchase agreement... and even then, the most restrictive protection would be protection against "significant impairment of the primary view". LA does not have that language in the downtown redevelopment / adaprive reuse area... for obvious reasons. Sure, nobody wants a new building immediately outside their windows - I wouldn't like a parking garage to go up and block my east and south views across the LA Basin - but hey - I moved into a dynamic and growing downtown, not the fossil it was ten years ago. Construction and new, often large, buildings come with the territory. It's not like this should be a surprise... One of the reasons I moved into the Fashion District instead of the trendier areas near Staples is precisely because I determined that the chance of losing my south and east views to new large buildings was far less than in South Park or even up near 4th/Spring or the Civic Center. Yeah, it is pretty funky down here - which is cool, but so far I am right.
RLK on April 26, 2007, at 09:39AM – #4
South Park, correct me if I'm wrong, is the only area zoned for new construction for residential. This type of construction should be expected and encouraged. I live in South Park and the pending Glass Tower will block my view of the Eastern Columbian clock tower and the Jesus Saves sign. I love that sign. I'm not happy about it but that's the way it goes. When I looked for a place to buy in Downtown I looked at the historic core and other areas and felt that the filming or living next to a business or bar may pose an issue with me. One mans issue is another mans pleasure I guess. I agree with all the posts, if you want to whine go to 626 Reserve.