After a Year of Holding, 4th and Hill Toilet Up and Running
Eric Richardson
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DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES — The Automated Public Toilet (APT) at 4th and Hill entered service earlier this week, bringing the total number of units in operation up to thirteen. The 4th and Hill APT was placed in the ground last summer, but had been plagued with delays in getting service up and running.
An extra bonus? Use of the two Historic Core APTs is now free.
While the APTs serving Central City East had been free since their installation, the two toilets in the Historic Core had charged a quarter for use. Guillermo Gonzalez of CBS Decaux said today that the change was due to repeated jamming of the toilets’ coin slots. After repeated maintenance, it became simpler and more reliable to just quit charging.
Both the 4th and Hill and 5th and Hill APTs have had lengthy install times. Back in January, Lance Oishi of Bureau of Street Services reported that the unit had passed inspections and was just waiting for DWP to turn the power on. In April, Oishi told blogdowntown that “We’re still at that same point.”
In the end, though, Gonzalez reports that the final hold-up was with AT&T, who couldn’t activate service on the phone line it had installed to the unit last year. The new concrete we reported on in June was the result of a visit where AT&T went searching for the line.
Comments
Not sure if you already saw this: Crap and Trade: Why public toilets should pay you. Thought it was hilar – and also pretty convivncing –
From my perch overlooking 5th & Hill, I’ve been observing renewed work on the second APT to stand at the southwest corner of this intersection with yellow tape and orange cones being used to delineate where the APT will stand next to Pershing Square.
The present APT is much used and has a line of two or three people often waiting to use the facility. Ending the fee will make it easier for even more folks to utilize this resource.
However, despite the easy access to the nearby APT, many people still prefer to use Lindley Place, the alley between Broadway and Hill, as an open air latrine. While I continue to support the APT program as a vital amenity for residents and visitors to Downtown, I believe the city will need to step up a public information campaign as well as increasing enforcement against public defecation and urination, on grounds of protecting the public health as well as working to dispel Downtown’s pernicious reputation as a place unfriendly and frankly noxious to pedestrians due to the everpresent smell of urine.
I’m speechless. Bravo. Finally…
Seattle recently put five of these up on eBay.
It’s a shame LA didn’t grab these and install them here… We could have had all five installed for about the the price of one.
The city doesn’t buy the toilets – CBS Decaux does.
It’s pretty interesting checking out those eBay listings. I think the models L.A. uses seem nicer than these, particularly in the construction of the floors and walls.
The real cost is the installation - and not the purchase of the units. And it’s clear that the Seattle models were not of the quality we - or they - needed.



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